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	<title>Comments on: Search Engine Marketing Firms Are Stupid</title>
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		<title>By: web design leeds</title>
		<link>http://www.jimkukral.com/search-engine-marketing-firms-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-12927</link>
		<dc:creator>web design leeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 08:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just found this via google, some good poins here </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just found this via google, some good poins here</p>
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		<title>By: 11 Surefire Ways To Become A World-Class SEO Douchebag &#8212; Sugarrae</title>
		<link>http://www.jimkukral.com/search-engine-marketing-firms-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-10035</link>
		<dc:creator>11 Surefire Ways To Become A World-Class SEO Douchebag &#8212; Sugarrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] undeserving of such snide remarks. (Could JohnyX be Johny Xantas who we see trolling in a different blog comment? The same Johny Xantas who spends his late nights browsing through Craigslist in search of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] undeserving of such snide remarks. (Could JohnyX be Johny Xantas who we see trolling in a different blog comment? The same Johny Xantas who spends his late nights browsing through Craigslist in search of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Eisenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Jim. I am flattered. You know the respect goes both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jim. I am flattered. You know the respect goes both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kukral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Kukral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan, thanks for stopping by my blog and commenting. Glad to hear that I&#039;m not crazy from someone I respect as much as you.

For anyone who doesn&#039;t know what Bryan is, does, or has done, click his name above and start reading everything. It might take 6-months, but you&#039;ll be smarter for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, thanks for stopping by my blog and commenting. Glad to hear that I&#8217;m not crazy from someone I respect as much as you.</p>
<p>For anyone who doesn&#8217;t know what Bryan is, does, or has done, click his name above and start reading everything. It might take 6-months, but you&#8217;ll be smarter for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Eisenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.jimkukral.com/search-engine-marketing-firms-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4917</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Eisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

You are a 110% correct. This is why Search Guru Mike Grehan has said &quot;SEO is Dead.&quot; Since I started publishing in this industry over 8 years ago very few people until recently have been talking about conversions in the search space. The issue the SEO industry faces is a marketing one and unfortunately there are many who may believe they are marketers but they have spent all their time talking about algorithms, code and technology and very little about what marketing is really about; people and why they do the things they do. Check out SEO for Beginners &amp; Marketing Amateurs http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/06/25/seo-for-beginners-marketing-amateurs/ to get SEOMoz&#039;s Rand Fishkin&#039;s significant other&#039;s brutally frank opinion on the SEO problem..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>You are a 110% correct. This is why Search Guru Mike Grehan has said &#8220;SEO is Dead.&#8221; Since I started publishing in this industry over 8 years ago very few people until recently have been talking about conversions in the search space. The issue the SEO industry faces is a marketing one and unfortunately there are many who may believe they are marketers but they have spent all their time talking about algorithms, code and technology and very little about what marketing is really about; people and why they do the things they do. Check out SEO for Beginners &amp; Marketing Amateurs <a href="http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/06/25/seo-for-beginners-marketing-amateurs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.grokdotcom.com/2007/06/25/seo-for-beginners-marketing-amateurs/</a> to get SEOMoz&#8217;s Rand Fishkin&#8217;s significant other&#8217;s brutally frank opinion on the SEO problem..</p>
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		<title>By: mark rush</title>
		<link>http://www.jimkukral.com/search-engine-marketing-firms-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4916</link>
		<dc:creator>mark rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont know what seo firms youve been talking to but my advice is look further afield as in my experience, MOST seo firms get to know a business, then its customers before taking on a campaign... i know I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont know what seo firms youve been talking to but my advice is look further afield as in my experience, MOST seo firms get to know a business, then its customers before taking on a campaign&#8230; i know I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Frits Straatsma  &#124; datewereld dating</title>
		<link>http://www.jimkukral.com/search-engine-marketing-firms-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-4826</link>
		<dc:creator>Frits Straatsma  &#124; datewereld dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A part of the search engine marketing firm&#039;s responsibility should be finding out what the frases are the better clients find their way to the company with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A part of the search engine marketing firm&#8217;s responsibility should be finding out what the frases are the better clients find their way to the company with.</p>
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		<title>By: 11 Surefire Ways To Become A World-Class SEO Douchebag - Sugarrae</title>
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		<dc:creator>11 Surefire Ways To Become A World-Class SEO Douchebag - Sugarrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] undeserving of such snide remarks. (Could JohnyX be Johny Xantas who we see trolling in a different blog comment? The same Johny Xantas who spends his late nights browsing through Craigslist in search of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] undeserving of such snide remarks. (Could JohnyX be Johny Xantas who we see trolling in a different blog comment? The same Johny Xantas who spends his late nights browsing through Craigslist in search of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim has a point

You can SEO a site for the top search query in a niche and quadruple the traffic, and only increase sales by 10%, because most of the buying traffic is actually coming from the long-tail.

There is a benefit in SEO with a PPC mindset, target more low hanging, high conversion traffic.

I think he is also saying there is a difference between what a customer wants and what they need, and in the mind of an internet marketer, more profitable sales wins over more traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim has a point</p>
<p>You can SEO a site for the top search query in a niche and quadruple the traffic, and only increase sales by 10%, because most of the buying traffic is actually coming from the long-tail.</p>
<p>There is a benefit in SEO with a PPC mindset, target more low hanging, high conversion traffic.</p>
<p>I think he is also saying there is a difference between what a customer wants and what they need, and in the mind of an internet marketer, more profitable sales wins over more traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Johny Xantas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johny Xantas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You too!</p>
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