Comments on: The Big 3 Auto Companies Branding Failure http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/ Small Business Consultant Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:45:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: HID Lights http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11432 HID Lights Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:39:54 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11432 Rebranding is a good option I think.. I'm not in favor in giving bailout for these men.. They should come up with a more concrete plan in coping with the crisis.. Rebranding is a good option I think.. I'm not in favor in giving bailout for these men.. They should come up with a more concrete plan in coping with the crisis..

]]> By: The Big 3 May be Listening http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-10419 The Big 3 May be Listening Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:04:07 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-10419 [...] Kukral made a great point about a branding opportunity the big 3 missed the first time they went to beg congress for money. To sum it up, he said that if the 3 CEOs would [...] [...] Kukral made a great point about a branding opportunity the big 3 missed the first time they went to beg congress for money. To sum it up, he said that if the 3 CEOs would [...]

]]> By: justinlevy http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11431 justinlevy Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:51:17 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11431 I agree that it is a bad marketing/PR move to go to Congress and the public begging to bailed out after flying 3 private jets into D.C. at an approximate cost of $20,000/flight. Furthermore, I'm sure they each came in separate limos, stayed in posh expensive hotels and ate very expensive meals. I agree with all of the talk of, from a marketing and public opinion standpoint, that this is very bad for the 3 companies. <br><br>They don't need all of those expensive amenities however, what everyone seems to be overlooking in this is that the Boards for all 3 of these companies (and most of the top Fortune companies) require certain security precautions be in place. For many top companies this includes having their CEO fly in private jets and accompanied by security personnel. I know a few people who oversee security at Fortune 50 companies and these are their requirements as well. There are risks of assaults, kidnappings, and other very serious security concerns. Some of the variables when flying commercial or all together in a single plane are uncontrollable and therefore certain precautions have to be taken.<br><br>Furthermore, why was an in-person meeting required. Why couldn't they use something like the Cisco Tele-Presence system to conduct the inquiry? I think that would have done much better for public opinion to say "Hey, we understand and that's why we've decided to using technology". Of course, as I mentioned security concerns above, there are definite concerns with something like that but nothing that I think would impede its use.<br><br>Like I said, I'm not condoning it but think that we need to look at the other prospective before just hosing them for the decision. I agree that it is a bad marketing/PR move to go to Congress and the public begging to bailed out after flying 3 private jets into D.C. at an approximate cost of $20,000/flight. Furthermore, I'm sure they each came in separate limos, stayed in posh expensive hotels and ate very expensive meals. I agree with all of the talk of, from a marketing and public opinion standpoint, that this is very bad for the 3 companies.

They don't need all of those expensive amenities however, what everyone seems to be overlooking in this is that the Boards for all 3 of these companies (and most of the top Fortune companies) require certain security precautions be in place. For many top companies this includes having their CEO fly in private jets and accompanied by security personnel. I know a few people who oversee security at Fortune 50 companies and these are their requirements as well. There are risks of assaults, kidnappings, and other very serious security concerns. Some of the variables when flying commercial or all together in a single plane are uncontrollable and therefore certain precautions have to be taken.

Furthermore, why was an in-person meeting required. Why couldn't they use something like the Cisco Tele-Presence system to conduct the inquiry? I think that would have done much better for public opinion to say “Hey, we understand and that's why we've decided to using technology”. Of course, as I mentioned security concerns above, there are definite concerns with something like that but nothing that I think would impede its use.

Like I said, I'm not condoning it but think that we need to look at the other prospective before just hosing them for the decision.

]]> By: Geoff Karcher http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11430 Geoff Karcher Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:26:50 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11430 I agree, no way should they be bailed out, we'll just be throwing good money after bad. Not to mention socializing the auto industry. <br><br>I also like the branding idea, to bad they missed that opportunity.<br><br>Anyone wonder why the Big 3 don't turn to SEO and Web Marketing rather than newspapers and TV time? I agree, no way should they be bailed out, we'll just be throwing good money after bad. Not to mention socializing the auto industry.

I also like the branding idea, to bad they missed that opportunity.

Anyone wonder why the Big 3 don't turn to SEO and Web Marketing rather than newspapers and TV time?

]]> By: Dave Starr http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11429 Dave Starr Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:25:09 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11429 Amen on the branding and thinking before you act issues. Of course it is only a day's drive from detroit to Washington ... they could have used the trip to show how much progress they have made on economy ... but why stop there?<br><br>If they really wanted to show innovation (surprised no other bloggers have mentioned this ... why didn't they meet via video teleconference? Hmm. Why wouldn't our Congress, supposedly trying to show leadership, have demanded it if the auto bigwigs themselevs didn't? Why didn't the news media mention using the Internet to meet?<br><br>The answer is, as Americans, we seem to be one of the most resistant countries to change in the whole world. Nobody seems to think there really _is_ any real crisis at hand.<br><br>Even well developed, easy to use, even free or almost means of holding virtualk meetings are not even considered ... why? "Because this si the way we have always done it". My poor country ... still rich in monetary terms but absolutely bankrupt in the innovations department. Amen on the branding and thinking before you act issues. Of course it is only a day's drive from detroit to Washington … they could have used the trip to show how much progress they have made on economy … but why stop there?

If they really wanted to show innovation (surprised no other bloggers have mentioned this … why didn't they meet via video teleconference? Hmm. Why wouldn't our Congress, supposedly trying to show leadership, have demanded it if the auto bigwigs themselevs didn't? Why didn't the news media mention using the Internet to meet?

The answer is, as Americans, we seem to be one of the most resistant countries to change in the whole world. Nobody seems to think there really _is_ any real crisis at hand.

Even well developed, easy to use, even free or almost means of holding virtualk meetings are not even considered … why? “Because this si the way we have always done it”. My poor country … still rich in monetary terms but absolutely bankrupt in the innovations department.

]]> By: Jim Kukral TheBizWebCoach http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11426 Jim Kukral TheBizWebCoach Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:25:46 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11426 I'm not an economist. I'm a marketer/brander. I don't know if we should bail them out. But I do know that they'd have an easier time getting the handout if they sold it better, that's all I'm saying. I'm not an economist. I'm a marketer/brander. I don't know if we should bail them out. But I do know that they'd have an easier time getting the handout if they sold it better, that's all I'm saying.

]]> By: Jim Kukral TheBizWebCoach http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11428 Jim Kukral TheBizWebCoach Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:24:38 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11428 I agree with you. The "product" I was referring to in this example was them begging. In that instance, their brand, at that moment was a huge mistake. I agree with you. The “product” I was referring to in this example was them begging. In that instance, their brand, at that moment was a huge mistake.

]]> By: CoolpapaC http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11427 CoolpapaC Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:21:22 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11427 I think this has nothing to do with branding and everything to do with failed management. The leadership demonstrated by the big three has reflected the same arrogant, narrow minded and out of touch approach revealed as a market weakness decades ago. The writing was on the wall but they failed to respond with products to fit the changing market. Hopping in a hybrid and driving to DC would have a required sensitivity they are so blatantly lacking. Instead, they behave in a manner consistent with who they are... flying cross country in corporate jets, arriving hat in had without even a basic a plan to address the crisis.<br><br>No matter how good your PR, advertising, corporate message, Brooks Brothers suit or haircut... In the end, your brand is only as good as the product or service you deliver. I think this has nothing to do with branding and everything to do with failed management. The leadership demonstrated by the big three has reflected the same arrogant, narrow minded and out of touch approach revealed as a market weakness decades ago. The writing was on the wall but they failed to respond with products to fit the changing market. Hopping in a hybrid and driving to DC would have a required sensitivity they are so blatantly lacking. Instead, they behave in a manner consistent with who they are… flying cross country in corporate jets, arriving hat in had without even a basic a plan to address the crisis.

No matter how good your PR, advertising, corporate message, Brooks Brothers suit or haircut… In the end, your brand is only as good as the product or service you deliver.

]]> By: dailybragger http://www.jimkukral.com/the-big-3-auto-companies-branding-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-11425 dailybragger Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:32:55 +0000 http://www.jimkukral.com/?p=1352#comment-11425 They should have consulted their PR agencies before they flew into Washington. (Their pitch sucks.) <br>I really don't think government should bailout these guys. You can give these companies billions, but it's not going to make us buy their cars. They definitely need to rebrand. They should have consulted their PR agencies before they flew into Washington. (Their pitch sucks.)
I really don't think government should bailout these guys. You can give these companies billions, but it's not going to make us buy their cars. They definitely need to rebrand.

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